Good reasons or not?

We lived in Sauherad kommune, Telemark, Norway. Other small villages around are Bø, Gvarv, Nordagutu and Akkerhaugen. We moved to a house there in feb 2013. Started to work, putted the kids in a little school etc. The kids are happy and active.

Suddenly after just about 2 months the Child Welfare System, Midt-Telemark Barneverntjeneste or Barnevernet, knocked at the door and wondering about our three kids. Especially the oldest one who has EDS. We wanted to co-operate, no problems.

We took initiative to check him out more and came up with ideas. But they did not like so much to co-operate and help him. They didn’t like what the doctor said either. Instead they surrounded the house just a few months later with 6-7 cars and several policemen. They destroyed the door, crushed the glass and running in and with violence fighting down the kids trying to carry them out. The oldest one fighted back for his life saying “I’m dying”! They putted documents in our hands with statements without any trace of proof.

It’s a long story to tell but I will just briefly put down here some of the reasons used to take the kids. Everything here can be documented and checked. Just contact me and I will show you.

Another reason I’m doing this list is because I have discovered that many people have no idea how the Child Welfare System works. Some are helped, that’s true. But many think it’s much of violence and alcohol as a reason behind to take kids. But after statistic from ssb.no it’s around 1% alcohol and 4% violence. Many say ”it must be something else behind”. But it’s often nothing else behind. Many times a trifle or just nothing or pure misunderstanding and language problems.

People also think there are good investigations and proof behind such serious stuff with kids like ours. But I have learned there are often no investigations at all. Just assumptions. Many lawyers told me this is an area where evidence is of low value. I was told: ”51% is enough here but in other criminal stuff like robbery or murder we need to be 99% sure.”

Some of the arguments are quite funny but they are repeated so much and often so it must be of very high importance. I will start slowly and fill out more when I have time.

Again, if someone want to control the statements and facts behind, just contact me and I will show you more facts than you probably can digest.


CWS: The kids are walking around in shorts at home and that’s remarkable.

My comment:
It’s no date or name when this was observed but I guess one person saw this in May/June. We lived many years in a warmer southern country before Norway so our kids are used to do this. Is it forbidden to use shorts at home when it’s warm?


CWS: The kids have lost their eye-glasses.

My comment:
They have never lost any eye-glasses. They are still here at home if someone like to see?


CWS: One of the kids got a bicycle from foster parents after 6 months and started to learn to use it.

My comment:
Interesting. All of our kids used and had bikes since 3-4 years prior to this. Pictures…?


CWS: The two smallest started after 6 months to write their names.

My comment:
Really? We have books and drawings since many years at home where they wrote their own beautiful names and other names. Like to see?


CWS: The smallest one could not so quick open up his trousers and outdoor wear to pee when the class visited the forest.

My comment:
They gave him new pants and new snow pants with hard sitting buttons and tight zip. No problems at home but how many seconds is the limit for a 6 years old?


CWS: The kids cannot go to bathroom by themselves.

My Comment:
I asked my boy about it. He said the button on his trousers is very hard and the lock on the door can’t be opened at school. They changed the lock and we changed to better trousers. If we ask the kids in confidence they give the answer, right?


CWS: The smallest one is coming to school 11:00 o’clock every day he is there.

My comment:
The report from school says he came only one day at 11:00. The majority of days he is coming at start 8:30. He had papers from doctor this period that he had a tough 4 weeks virus and should take it easy, rest and stay home some days. Like to see the reports?


CWS: The kids have been moving a lot.

My comment:
We have not been moving a lot. Show me exactly where we lived?
To visit someone a few days… does that mean to move there?


CWS: When the school made grilled sausages in an outdoor activity, it seemed new to my kids.

My comment:
It’s not new to them. They did it at home and to friends also. Maybe they were sitting some seconds and thinking about their lost lovely parents and how they miss the old school and friends we gave them. Like to see our pics?


CWS: The middle child seems not to find any friends the first days in school.

My comment:
I did not expect a child to make a bunch of friends in a new country, a new language, a new school, a new house, new people the first day. He is social, writes the school later. Why focus only on the first day?


CWS: The middle kid could not open his schoolbag.

My comment:
He managed take care of his sack at home by himself all the time and putting books in and out.


CWS: The smallest one took on his clothes too slowly.

My comment:

At home I saw him do this quick in total darkness under a cover and to our friends super quick that amazed them. Shall we make a contest?

CWS: The two smallest learned to put shampoo in the hair when in foster care.

My comment:

They did at home also since a long time. They love bathing. Some pics?


CWS: They two smallest learned to brush their teeth by themselves in foster care.

My comment:
That don’t sound good! Dentists in Sweden and Norway tell parents to help all kids to brush their teeth until they are 10-12 years old. I think it’s a good advice to help as we did at our home?


CWS: The kids did not say Hello the first morning they woke up in the new place!

My comment:
I’m not surprised. With violence to move them from a good home with good parents and good friends to something lesser good is of course shocking for them, right?


CWS: The little one cried the first morning he woke up in the new place.

My Comment:
Poor him… Of course he miss the social life, his favorite pillow and toys, loving parents, friends and old good school, right?


CWS: They have no activities.

My comment:
Any real proof of that? Staying outdoors playing 4-7 hours a day, visit friends, organized in different forms  etc, etc. Maybe too much activities?


CWS: They are isolated.

My comment:
Any proof of that? It’s not easy to isolate our kids when you have thousands of pics, films and friends around local and abroad, visiting almost all Europe and knowing many languages?


CWS: It’s a mess in the home.

My comment:
Any proof of that? It’s not easy to have mess with just a few things. It’s nice and clean home. Like to see?


CWS: The oldest one was sitting in a wheelchair.

My comment:
It’s not so easy to use a wheelchair if you never had, owned or used one at home, right?


CWS: The parents did not help to give away the kids!

My comment:
I don’t think any normal parent give away their kids from a good home and care, do you?


CWS: The mother is sitting very close to the child!

My comment:
If you haven’t seen each other for several weeks I think it’s ok to sit close and talk?


CWS: The parents are arranging the hair and looking in it and touching it on one kid!

My comment:
He had chewing gum in his hair from his foster home. Is it forbidden to help him with this and show affection when seeing your own kids?


CWS: The smallest one played by himself!

My comment:
Yes, it’s true. He felt safe and he played with some toy blocks 1,5 meters from us a few minutes. Then with his brother and then with his parents. That’s how kids do when playing, right?


CWS: The kids were taken to an indoor playland in a city far away and they were unfamiliar with it!

My Comment:
They had not been there before but to many other places and love those places. Do you expect them in a short time to visit and know all playland centers in a country?


CWS: A Witch gave a diagnose to the oldest kid!

My Comment:
Any proof of that? Where is this witch?


CWS: The kids are made sick!

My comment:
Any proof of that? CWS is not in agreement with the chief physician and saying that the doctor has been trapped and is affected. Who has the best medical competence?


CWS: It’s better for the oldest one at the institution!

My comment:
He was malnourished, battled on the legs, punched in the stomach, beaten at the head and threatened to be killed and strangled there. Is that good care?


CWS: One kid had pink girl clothes on a photo!

My Comment:
I cannot find a photo like that in our archives. Do you?


CWS: The foster parents need a reward to not break down!

My Comment:
It was easy to take care of the kids without rewards to us. Today the foster home receive 6000 Euro per month for just one kid. They have two! A lot of money?


CWS: CWS mean that the parents have Munchaussen by proxy.

My Comment:
The expert psycholog writes that they do not have it. It should be logic to first meet a person you put diagnoses on? Is it by the way a recognized diagnosis?


CWS: The parents have complained to the County Board and CWS labour union and this is remarkable.

My Comment:
If something goes wrong it’s important to make it right, correct?


CWS: The parents have asked for insight in records everywhere and this is remarkable.

My Comment:
We have legal rights to see this and parental responsibilities. Good, right?


CWS:  The parents have several times asked for the dental records.

My Comment:
There we can read that the kids do not get good food and drink and not good help to brush their teeth in foster care, Important?


CWS: We have never met parents like them. They want to know everything about the kids.

My Comment:
Of course. What shall I say. Take is as a compliment?


CWS: You must trust us or do you in general have problems to trust people.

My Comment:
I have no problems. What do you mean?


CWS: If you don’t trust us it could mean that you had problems in your childhood.

My Comment:
I don’t know about any problems. Can you develop it more?


CWS: The middle boy is giving a hug to strangers and that is remarkable.

My Comment:
It’s almost true. He is sometimes giving a hug to those he knows since before when greeting them. In the foster home he is not allowed to sit in the knee. Is it wrong with empathy?


CWS: The mother has different names.

My Comment:
She has a firstname, a middle name and a lastname. A loved person has often also many nicknames, true?


To be continued…

The oldest kid was allowed to come home in the summer of 2015. But the two smallest ones are still in foster care and want also to come home, they say.

The last tribunal wrote that the law was not fulfilled at all to take any of the 3 kids from us. (Barnevernloven § 4-12, a-d).

One judge asked CWS two times if CWS had said they are sorry to the parents and the kids for what they did to them. CWS said No and No. Will they one day say “we are sorry”?

The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg decided in Oct 2016 to look at our case and asking now the government of Norway to give answer.

Dan

plojmoj [at] post.com

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